Hayley Akins runs an online education company called Motion Hatch. They help motion designers with their businesses and creative careers.

If that name sounds familiar, you might recognize it from her podcast, that goes by the same name. It’s great, so check it out if you’re looking for something new.

Hayley and Chris discuss her journey from studying film production, working for Google and the transition from full time to freelance to ultimately, starting her own business. But what’s really cool is that she’s created this unique community to help her fellow creatives and provide a support group of their peers.

There is a lot of overlap with what Hayley does and what we do. So if you’re a fan, then you will enjoy this one. Her and Chris even do a little mentorship role play which is always fun to witness.

Thank you to Gusto for sponsoring this episode.