Jeff Lerner is the founder and CEO of Entre Institute, a platform that teaches people how to build business’ and make a living in non-traditional ways. Which makes sense, because when he was a kid he dropped out of high school and taught himself jazz piano to pay the bills.

Eventually, he traded the piano keys for a keyboard, started his own affiliate marketing business and dug himself out of insurmountable debt—about $400K to be exact.

Jeff and Chris talk about the concept of digital real estate and the long game behind creating wealth from an online business. They also get pretty raw about the experiences that fuel our guest's death defying drive to be good at things.

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