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    How to Attract What You Want w/ Jodie Cook

    with Jodie Cook

    Chris Do and Jodie Cook connect manifestation with clear intentions, practical action, and freedom from desperation.

    Chris Do

    Chris Do

    Founder, The Futur™ · July 1, 2026

    A championship is not a shirt

    A vision board can deliver exactly the wrong thing. Jodie Cook, who competes in equipped bench press and describes selling a social media agency, wanted a world championship. What arrived, she recalls, was a shirt.

    That gap makes her perspective useful. Cook brings both a competitor's ambition and a business seller's experience to a subject usually argued through belief alone: whether wanting something clearly enough changes the likelihood of getting it.

    On her vision board, a bench press shirt represented winning the world championships. Later, at a training session with the GB bench press coach, she received a shirt that matched the image. Same brand, same color, same everything, in her telling.

    Cook read the coincidence as manifestation. A friend who shared her interest offered a different diagnosis: the request had been too literal. The image specified equipment, not victory.

    The distinction is revealing even without accepting the supernatural explanation. An object can stand for an achievement without containing any of the conditions required to achieve it. Owning the shirt and winning the championship are different outcomes.

    A symbol is not a specification.

    Cook's story gives the conversation with Chris Do its central tension. Manifestation promises a relationship between intention and result. But that relationship becomes slippery when any resemblance between an imagined future and a later event can count as success.

    A shirt arrives. A cookie appears. A business sells. These events differ enormously in consequence, complexity, and the work that precedes them. Treating all three as the same kind of evidence would obscure the most useful parts of the discussion.

    The stronger question is not whether every coincidence confirms a universal force. It is what a person actually does differently after deciding what matters.

    Cook approaches that question playfully. She is willing to experiment, notice coincidences, and entertain an explanation that sounds implausible to others. Do approaches it with conviction, but his examples soon move into familiar territory: taking notes, making requests, reviewing finances, and rejecting bad terms.

    Neither disposition automatically produces a result. Curiosity can become credulity. Conviction can become an excuse to ignore evidence. Yet both speakers describe practices that are more concrete than simply wanting harder.

    That matters because the appeal of manifestation also contains its trap. It offers the emotional experience of progress before anything has changed. A person can become increasingly fluent in describing a desired life while remaining no closer to building it.

    The bench shirt story makes that trap visible. The desired outcome has to survive translation from a private image into a practical definition. Otherwise, the mind can celebrate a substitute while the original ambition remains untouched.

    Cook's championship story does not establish that a vision board caused the gift. It establishes something narrower and more useful for this discussion: even an apparently successful manifestation can expose an unclear goal.

    The problem begins before the universe gets involved.

    Wanting harder is not a method

    Do's objection is not to ambition. It is to ambition that never acquires a working form. He describes people who want to speak on a stage, write a book, or publish something that goes viral, then do nothing beyond increasing the intensity of the wish.

    More desire becomes the entire strategy.

    Those examples are recognizable because each names a visible result without describing the activity underneath it. The stage, the book, and the successful post can become trophies in an imagined future. Wanting the trophy says little about readiness to pursue it.

    • A speaking ambition can remain a wish to be seen onstage.
    • A publishing ambition can remain a wish to have written a book.
    • A content ambition can remain a wish for a viral response.

    The distinction between a desired response and the work behind it also sits alongside The Futur's coaching conversation, Why some videos blow up & others don't. Here, however, the issue is broader than content performance. It is the habit of naming an outcome and mistaking that declaration for movement.

    Do is unusually forceful about belief. He initially presents manifestation as a binary commitment: either believe in it or do not. A provisional attempt, undertaken merely because it is convenient, strikes him as hollow.

    Cook presses on a distinction that his position needs. Does acknowledging doubt mean someone is not fully committed? Do allows that skepticism is acceptable, separating uncertainty from what he sees as an opportunistic performance of belief.

    That exchange leaves an important tension unresolved. Cook's willingness to experiment does not depend on certainty. Do insists on conviction, yet later describes a process that does not require an expectation that the universe will answer.

    Their accounts become more compatible when belief is separated from prediction. Someone can commit to pursuing an outcome without possessing proof that it will happen. Commitment describes conduct. Certainty makes a claim about the future.

    The transcript does not resolve the metaphysical argument. It does provide a useful standard for judging the practice: whether belief changes what happens next.

    Do begins with a vivid picture of something beyond his current means. He holds that picture, revisits it, and develops its details. In his office-space example, he designs the environment either literally or mentally and takes notes as he encounters things that inform the idea.

    This is not yet execution, but it is no longer an undefined wish. The imagined space is becoming specific enough to investigate.

    That distinction protects ambition from two opposite errors. One is rejecting a goal because the resources are not immediately available. The other is treating the absence of resources as irrelevant because the desire feels powerful.

    Do's own account does neither. The vision can exceed present capacity, but present capacity still has to be examined. Eventually, the imagined office must encounter a budget.

    Desire needs a next action.

    Without that encounter, manifestation remains difficult to distinguish from rehearsing a fantasy. With it, the conversation shifts from whether wanting has mysterious power to whether wanting has produced a decision.

    A private vision becomes a public request

    Do's explanation of attraction starts with attention. When he is thinking about an office or warehouse, he says, he begins noticing relevant advertisements and spaces that would previously have passed without interest.

    He calls this the law of attraction. His example also contains an ordinary, observable sequence: a defined interest changes what he looks for and what he recognizes as relevant.

    Those explanations should not be collapsed into one another. Noticing more opportunities does not establish that intention created them. It does show how a goal can change a person's relationship to opportunities already within reach.

    The more consequential move comes next. Do takes the private picture and tells other people about it.

    “This is what I'm looking for right now,” he says, illustrating the kind of announcement he makes on social media.

    The announcement supplies other people with usable information. A friend does not have to guess what kind of space would fit. A distant connection does not have to infer whether an introduction would be welcome.

    In Do's account, the useful contact can be a friend of a friend, separated from him by several relationships. Someone recognizes a match, sees a mutual benefit, and helps move the possibility forward.

    No claim about a listening universe is necessary to understand that mechanism. People can respond to a request they have actually received.

    His office example contains several distinct activities:

    • Develop a clear picture of the space.
    • Record details while visiting other places.
    • Describe the desired characteristics publicly.
    • Allow connections to identify a relevant opportunity.

    The sequence matters. Publicity without specificity produces attention without necessarily producing a useful lead. Specificity without communication leaves the request trapped with the person who already knows it.

    Do combines the two. He makes the goal recognizable, then gives it somewhere to travel.

    This is a narrower claim than promising that every public declaration attracts its fulfillment. Do himself describes circumstances in which other people see something mutually beneficial. Their interests and knowledge belong inside the explanation, not outside it.

    The result is cooperation, not simply reception.

    There is a useful companion to that distinction in The Futur's Your Future Life Coach Might Not Be Human, another conversation framed around making audacious requests in business. In this exchange, the relevant act is not merely thinking bigger. It is making a sufficiently clear request that another person can recognize a way to respond.

    Do says he does not expect the universe to answer. At the same time, he speaks with absolute confidence that his major goals eventually happen. That confidence is his personal account, not a guarantee that can be transferred to someone else's circumstances.

    What can be transferred is the structure of the attempt. A vision becomes a description. A description becomes a public signal. A public signal gives a network something concrete to act on.

    That is where attraction becomes less mysterious. The information has changed hands.

    It also creates a new responsibility. Once the opportunity appears, the person who asked for it has to decide whether it is actually right. Attention can supply possibilities. It cannot make the decision.

    The strongest buyer is not always buying

    Cook's agency sale brings the discussion out of imagined futures and into a transaction. She says she had owned the business for roughly nine years and had received earlier approaches without deciding to sell.

    When she did decide, she wrote a pretend check. It specified the amount she wanted, a date, the perfect buyer, and a sale of the social media agency with no earn out.

    The check made the desired deal explicit. It did not conduct the sale.

    Cook hired a broker. Her account includes 12 chemistry meetings, six second meetings, three offers, and one completed transaction. Those are the reported steps of a sales process, not evidence that the written check caused the outcome.

    The distinction does not diminish the exercise. It locates its value more precisely. Cook had written down not just a price, but conditions that defined the kind of result she wanted.

    The more interesting part of her account concerns what happened across the table. She says she enjoyed the agency, it did not consume much of her time, and its income supported a life that included travel and training.

    Keeping it was an acceptable outcome.

    That gave her a position beyond wanting the transaction to close. Prospective buyers had to offer something compelling enough to justify giving up a business she valued.

    “You tell me why I should give it to you,” Cook says, describing her stance.

    She also admits that her presentation contained some showmanship. The detachment was genuine, but she emphasized it in meetings. That admission makes the account more credible as a description of negotiation than a story about perfect emotional purity.

    Her desire to sell and her willingness to keep the business existed together. Neither canceled the other.

    The distinction between those positions can be stated simply:

    • Wanting a sale leaves room to assess an offer.
    • Needing a sale for survival makes refusal harder.
    • Enjoying the existing business gives staying put a real value.

    Cook credits that posture with helping produce a good deal. The account cannot establish how much of the outcome came from her attitude rather than the business itself, the buyers, or the broker's process. It can establish that she experienced the ability to refuse as a source of power.

    This business-owner perspective also belongs beside The Futur's Moving from Makers to Entrepreneurs. Cook is not describing the satisfaction of producing the work alone. She is assessing what ownership gives her and what a buyer must offer in exchange.

    Do recognizes the same issue in acquisition and investment messages he receives. Interest in his education business does not automatically make a proposal desirable. He wants any transaction to happen on his terms.

    The shared principle is not indifference. Both speakers care about the outcome. What they resist is allowing one possible outcome to become so necessary that its conditions stop receiving scrutiny.

    That is the business meaning of detachment in this conversation. Not wanting nothing. Preserving a credible alternative to saying yes.

    Detachment has to survive reality

    The language of detachment enters Cook's account through a manifestation exercise she attributes to Amy Westmoreland. Cook says she found Westmoreland on YouTube, tried the process, and described it in an article for Forbes.

    Her retelling uses a chocolate chip cookie as the desired object. The example is deliberately small, but its final step becomes central to the larger discussion about ambition and judgment.

    As Cook recounts it, the process has four parts:

    • Say what is wanted. Name the desired thing plainly.
    • Be specific and describe it as received. Include its qualities and the experience of having it.
    • Acknowledge the doubt. Recognize obstacles without treating uncertainty as the end of the possibility.
    • Release the need to have it. Recognize that life can remain acceptable without the desired result.

    This is Cook's account of the exercise, not an independently established method for producing external events. Her subsequent cookie story illustrates why that boundary matters.

    Days after writing about the example, she recalls walking along a familiar street in Lisbon. Someone emerged from a bakery carrying a tray of chocolate chip cookies and offered her a sample.

    She accepted, then connected the encounter to the exercise. For Cook, the coincidence made the experiment feel worth continuing. But the account supplies no basis for concluding that the exercise caused the offer.

    The practical significance lies elsewhere. The fourth step gives Do a way to explain why wanting too intensely can become dangerous.

    At first, releasing desire seems to contradict manifestation. Later, Do recasts it as a safeguard against obsession. The aim is not to stop valuing the result. It is to avoid valuing it so exclusively that warning signs disappear.

    “You invite people to take advantage of you when you're desperate,” he says.

    That statement needs a careful boundary. Vulnerability does not make someone responsible for another person's exploitation. The useful point in his business examples is that an urgent need can make unfavorable terms harder to reject.

    Do illustrates the problem through work inquiries, relationships, and inbound offers. A desired outcome becomes a filter so powerful that everything promising access to it looks more attractive than it deserves.

    Cook describes the same narrowing of judgment when a transaction feels necessary for survival. Her agency gave her an alternative. Not everyone approaching a negotiation has that protection.

    Their advice is strongest when treated as a warning about decision quality, not a moral judgment about people under pressure. The absence of desperation is not merely a performance to put on. In Cook's story, it rested partly on having something worthwhile to keep.

    Do also acknowledges that his patience reflects his circumstances. His life has already exceeded earlier expectations, he says. Additional achievements feel like a bonus rather than a rescue.

    That admission limits the universality of his position. Patience is easier when the present is acceptable. Still, the central distinction survives: a goal can guide attention without being allowed to overrule every other consideration.

    The vision still needs a budget

    The most useful part of Do's manifestation practice arrives after the imagined office, the notes, and the public request. He asks what practical steps would actually be necessary to obtain the space.

    The answer is strikingly unromantic.

    • Call a broker.
    • Talk with his wife.
    • Figure out the budget.
    • Review the finances.
    • Ask whether the result would bring joy and move his life forward.

    Those are the actions he names. They do not constitute a universal formula, but they reveal what keeps his version of manifestation from ending at visualization.

    The broker tests availability. The budget and financial review test feasibility. The conversation with his wife tests the desire against someone else's judgment. The final question tests whether obtaining the thing would improve life rather than simply satisfy the urge to obtain it.

    Each introduces friction. That friction is useful.

    A wish that never encounters resistance never has to become precise about its costs. Do's process gives other people and practical constraints a place in the decision before the outcome is treated as inevitable.

    His wife is especially important in that account. She asks whether he is sure and what the desired thing would actually do for him. He describes the exchange as a brief application of the brakes, not an attempt to shut the ambition down.

    Sometimes he reaffirms the goal. Sometimes he decides more thought is necessary.

    A desired outcome still has to deserve a yes.

    This is the strongest correction to the idea that commitment means never questioning a vision. Do's certainty about pursuing major goals coexists with a trusted person's permission to challenge a particular one.

    The goal is not protected from scrutiny simply because it has emotional force.

    His approach to timing follows the same pattern. He does not generally attach urgent deadlines to these ambitions, although he recognizes that some life decisions have real time constraints. Temporary setbacks do not, in his telling, settle the eventual result.

    He also focuses on the largest goals rather than tracking every smaller desire. The smaller developments matter as parts of the build toward something more consequential. That keeps a passing coincidence from becoming the entire measure of progress.

    None of this makes the final outcome certain. A clear request can fail. A suitable opportunity can remain unavailable. Another person's success story does not erase those possibilities, and Do's confidence should be understood as his stance toward uncertainty rather than proof that uncertainty has disappeared.

    The usable practice is more demanding than believing that good things are on their way. It requires a specific outcome, a visible request, an assessment of means, and enough independence to reject the wrong version of success.

    Cook's shirt and agency sale mark the distance between receiving something associated with an ambition and securing something that satisfies its actual terms. The first makes a memorable story. The second involves conditions, meetings, alternatives, and a decision.

    For a creative professional, that distinction is the real challenge. A full calendar is not automatically the right work. Interest in a business is not automatically the right offer. A space that resembles the vision still has to fit the finances.

    Call the broker. Check the budget. Let someone trusted challenge the desire.

    The wrong offer does not become right because it arrived after a wish.

    Siri and Alexa and Google, they're always listening to us because they're waiting for our commands. It is feeding a very giant computer brain somewhere. Let's accept that this is true. And the easiest way you can tap into that is the people who are creating the kind of content need to know what it is you're interested in. And if you touch and look at anything or search, it's going to send you more of what you're looking for. We know that. The minute you click on an ad for a car, more car ads are going to come your way. And eventually, you'll find a deal that's really good that meets all the criteria that you have. And you'll be in the lot driving home in your new car. So we go one level of abstraction, just one tiny little baby level abstraction. The universe is listening. The universal brain is listening. And it's going to serve you people, ideas, and things that you want more of until you have to make a decision. Do I want this or do I not want this? is going to sound super woo -woo, but I don't even care because I feel like it doesn't matter. You might enjoy it. I made a vision board last year. And on it, I put a bench press shirt, which is what I wear to bench press equipped. And I put that on it to represent winning the world championships in my sport, which is equipped bench press. And then not long after it, I went to a training session with the GB coach for the bench press team. And he handed me a new shirt. And then I realized after, it was the exact same shirt on my vision board, like the same brand, the same color, the same everything. And I was like, oh my God, that's really weird. I feel like I manifested a bench shirt. And then I told my friend about it, who's really, really into this. And she was like, yeah, you are totally manifesting wrong. You put on your vision board that you wanted to win the world championships, but you put a picture of the bench shirt. So she was like, this is really good because it shows that you've got like a connection. You can manifest stuff, but now you need to do it right. Like you have to be very specific about what you want. You can't just put this and it means that. It has to have one. who's really, really into this. And she was like, yeah, you are totally manifesting wrong. You put on your vision board that you wanted to win the world championships, but you put a picture of the bench shirt. So she was like, this is really good because it shows that you've got like a connection. You can manifest stuff, but now you need to do it right. Like you have to be very specific about what you want. You can't just put this and it means that it has to have words and everything. I was like, okay. So the other day I typed into YouTube how to manifest and I found this girl called, she's called Amy Westmoreland. She's got a channel with about 120 ,000 subscribers and I watched her four step process for manifesting. And it was like, so step one is you have to say what you want. Like I want a chocolate chip cookie. And then step two is you have to say what you want, but be very specific and then talk about it as if you've already got it. So like, I want a chocolate chip cookie. I want it to be really warm and really tasty. And oh my God, I can't believe I got this chocolate chip cookie. Like I never thought I would, but now I've got it and it's here and it tastes amazing. It's really good. And then set three, which she said is kind of controversial is she's like, then you have to kind of acknowledge the doubt. So you have to say, I don't know how I'm going to get a chocolate chip cookie. And for her, she was like, it's during COVID. It's in my house. I'm in my house. I can't go outside. I haven't got any chocolate chip cookie ingredients in the house. I haven't got them here. So I don't, I don't even really know if it's possible, but that has never stopped me before. Before I have had doubt and things have still come my way. And then step four was that you have to release the need to have the thing that you manifested. So it's like, you know what? I don't even want a chocolate chip cookie that much. Like I'm fine without one. Maybe I don't even like that that much. And I definitely don't need one to survive. My life is already fine without one. So I went through these four steps and then I tried it with a bunch of different stuff. But then also I wrote up her four step sequence in a new article for Forbes, just as it was in my mind. And I used her example in it and then published the article. Didn't really think anything else of it. And then a couple of days later, I'm walking down the exact street in Lisbon. I walked down like a hundred times before the exact same time on the way, somewhere specific. And one of the bakeries kind of someone comes out and he's got this entire tray of chocolate chip cookies and he comes up to me and he's like, Hey, do you want a sample? And I was like, Oh yeah, cool. walking down the exact street in lisbon i walked down like a hundred times before the exact same time on the way somewhere specific and one of the bakeries kind of someone comes out and he's got this entire tray of chocolate chip cookies and he comes up to me and he's like hey do you want a sample and i was like oh yeah cool just took one and then a couple of minutes later i was like no i actually did this i literally one of us in a chocolate chip cookie so now i'm like what else did you roll your eyes i feel like i saw that you were a little a little no like what else can i do like my powers my powers are obviously so good that i've managed to do this with someone else's words i don't even want one of myself so now i'm like what else am i gonna do so one thing i did was i emailed amy i don't know her at all but i emailed amy and i sent her the link to the forms article that i'd written and i just wrote you manifested this so that she can see that and that'll be quite cool for her but now i'm like what else can i manifest so i'm really down for playing this game okay this is fascinating to me number one is amy is doing some strange things in her manifestation technique there right and you said it's a little controversial because you're not supposed to allow yourself to doubt and not want that seems to be counterintuitive to this whole manifestation thing to begin with so i think about this a lot because there are a lot of people who say i want this i want to speak on a stage i want to write a book i want my post to go viral and they really do nothing they just have more want i think greater desire but nothing else there so we're to believe in this thing because i think it's one of those things where for me it's binary you either believe in it or you don't you can't halfway believe in it because that doesn't make any sense it's like and hopefully this doesn't piss off a lot of people but like i'll just believe in god just in case just in case there is a god i don't really but i'm just gonna say i mean people will say that i'm like if god exists and if god is omnipotent and omniscient well don't you think god knows you're faking it i can tell when my kids are faking i can tell when friends are faking it with me i don't hold them in high regard i have to have a conversation with them so that doesn't make any sense that's like a fool's errand to say like i semi -believe and i set like an all -powerful all -knowing being you well, don't you think God knows you're faking it? I can tell when my kids are faking it. I can tell when friends are faking it with me. I don't hold them in high regard. I have to have a conversation with them. So that doesn't make any sense. That's like a fool's errand to say, like, I semi -believe and I set, like an all -powerful, all -knowing being. And I'm only going to believe that just in case it doesn't work out, just in case it's true. But do you think acknowledging that you might have some doubts means that you're not fully on board? No, I think having some skepticism is okay. But to say that I'll do this just because it's convenient for me right now, that's the very specific argument I'm making, especially with this whole God thing, where we're saying to ourselves, I'm not sure God exists, but I better just believe just in case it is true. That's just like the lowest level of commitment. I think I'd rather you just not believe. I guess to take it out of religion, theology, and philosophy, if we go back to this whole manifestation thing, which is pretty wooed to begin with, they say like, I'm not sure manifestation works, but I'll just try it. To me, it's like, don't even bother. Have you manifested stuff? All the time. From a conscious process? Yes. What's your four -step process? I get a vision into my head as what I want. And it's very clear. And usually it's way more than what I have the means to be able to do. And I sit on that for a while, meaning like I really think about it until it really intensifies. And I think then this gets into the law of attraction, what you focus on, you find more of. And so if I'm thinking about a space, let's just say like a warehouse space or an office space, of course now ads will pop up or things that you would normally miss, now you're going to see. And I just keep working on it. I'll design it. Literally, or just in my mind, like what is it I want? I'm taking notes all the time everywhere I go. And then it becomes really hot and boiling to a point. And relatively new thing I do now is I just tell the world what I want. And I do it in the loudest, most available platforms, which is social media. And I say, I'm going to be in an office space that looks like X, Y, and Z. This is what I'm looking for right now. And I don't have any expectations that the universe is going to answer, but I know perhaps a friend of a friend, two or three degrees of separation. available platforms, which is social media. And I say, I'm going to be in an office space that looks like X, Y, and Z. This is what I'm looking for right now. And I don't have any expectations that the universe is going to answer, but I know perhaps a friend of a friend, two or three degrees of separation. Somebody may know somebody who's like, oh, we can help Chris with this. Let's make that happen because we want the same thing. And it's mutually beneficial for us to do that thing. And then the forces come together and it either happens or it doesn't, but it always happens for me. It's just the question of how long the timeline is. And I'm a very patient person and it will always happen with everything. So I don't let temporary setbacks get in my way. And I also don't believe it's just magic because what are now the next five steps I have to take in order to achieve that thing? Well, I got to call a broker. I got to talk to my wife. I have to figure out the budget. I have to look at our finances and I have to really ask myself, is this something that if it were to come true, something that would bring me joy and move me forward in my life? If it isn't, then it's just one of these careless ones and not something that's really backed up. And luckily I have enough people in my life that I trust, that have integrity, that when I tell them something like this, they can do a quick vibe check with me to make sure. That person mostly is my wife. It's like, you sure you want this? And what is this going to do for you again? And it's just usually just a little pumping the brakes just to make sure. And then I'm like, no, I want it. Or I have to do some more thinking. And then eventually it's going to happen. How many things are you manifesting at any given time? I never keep track, but I try to focus mostly on the biggest stuff. And then because when you manifest on the biggest stuff, the little things happen in the buildup to the big stuff. You mentioned timeline, but do you ever, because I feel like one of the rules is that you kind of don't have a timeline because you can't, because you have to kind of like, that's it. It's just like, at some point, I'll trust your timeline. But then do you ever have a rough timeline in place? Or how do you deal with the timeline side of things? Well, I think some people are like, I'm going to get married and have children by 40 or 30 or whatever it is. They definitely have a timeline because there's a biological deadline to this thing too. But when it comes to my life, most of it is really way, way above like where I thought I was going to be. It's all gravy for me right now. It's all bonus time. things? Well, I think some people are like, I'm going to get married and have children by 40 or 30 or whatever it is. They definitely have a timeline because there's a biological deadline to this thing too. But when it comes to my life, most of it is really way, way above like where I thought I was going to be. It's all gravy for me right now. It's all bonus time. And so it doesn't really matter. I don't feel that rush to do things. And the reason why I say that, Jodi, is because when you want something so bad, I think you start to make poor decisions. Somebody comes into your life like, oh, Chris, you want this thing? And you're like, oh, I so want that thing. And then what you don't see, and because you have your blinders up, you don't see all the weird stuff that they're doing around you, by you, and you become blind. You become so obsessed over this thing. I think that step four from Amy was actually really important that I actually don't want this thing that much. And I would just explain a little bit differently. Don't want it so much that you become blind and become obsessed and that you can't see around the corners. And that's really important. For example, people will pop up in my DMs like, hey, we're looking to acquire. We're looking to invest. Companies just like yours, education space. We've been watching you. I'm like, no, I need to do it on my own terms. And I think if you become so obsessed with that result, you make really poor decisions and it'll come back to bite you in the butt. Yeah, I had exactly the same or similar. When I sold my agency, I'd had it for nine years or something. And we'd had offers for sale, but I didn't really, it was kind of similar. It was like, yeah, nah, not right now. And then when I decided I wanted to sell, I wrote myself a pretend check for the exact amount I wanted to sell for, wrote the date, signed it, the perfect buyer, said it was for one social media agency with no earn out. I think we might have talked about this before because you said Jim Carrey did it as well for acting services rendered. And that was the exact amount of his first job. But the whole sales process, because I used a broker to do it, was like, okay, this is the process now. You get, we have 12 chemistry meetings. We had six second meetings, got three offers and we sold it once. But in all of those conversations, I feel like the reason it worked and the reason we got three offers and the reason we got a really good deal was because the whole time I was like, I don't really want to sell this thing. It's really good. I really enjoy it. It doesn't even take that much of my time. I travel the world. I train. Yeah, I've got this agency, but like, it's just a cash cow. offers and we sold it once. But in all of those conversations, I feel like the reason it worked and the reason we got free offers and the reason we got a really good deal was because the whole time I was like, I don't really want to sell this thing. It's really good. I really enjoy it. It doesn't even take that much of my time. I travel the world. I train. Yeah, I've got this agency, but like, it's just a cash cow. Prize it out of my hands. You tell me why I should give it to you. And there was just something about that sense of the power that I felt like I had that felt like it made us have the really good deal. And I don't know, it was true, but it wasn't like that true. Like, I think there was an element of like, showmanship in the meetings that I emphasize a little bit, but it was still the ultimate crux of it was, I don't need this. I definitely don't need it for survival. Because yeah, if you need it for survival, it's like, it's almost like another part of your brain is activated and you can't even think straight. You become desperate. Yeah. And people can smell that somehow. They really can because you kind of invite them into your life. Well, let's say like you say, I need to be married by 40 or 30, whatever the age is. And you're constantly like, hey, do you know anybody? Do you know anybody? Hey, are you available? Would you like to go out? And so you drop all your filters, all your instincts are gone. And so then they can see it. Like when you need a job and you know how I know, I just look at my inbox, my DMs. Desperation is like, it reeks. And it's really repulsive. Desperation means you invite people into your life. So you overshare because you are convinced that you have to do that in order to get the thing that you want. You invite people to take advantage of you when you're desperate. Desperate for work. So you're like, yeah, I don't have $200 for this thing. Yeah, I'm going to abuse you in this relationship. Physically, emotionally, everything. So if you were in on this very beginning of this conversation, you're rolling your eyes like Jodi and Chris are crazy. Let's just say that's what you're thinking. Now you reach the end of our conversation. Maybe I've turned a corner with you. Maybe. The universe is always listening, but then do you have to say things out loud or is the universe reading our brainwaves as well? Oh, something I read the other day. There was a, I don't know what book this is from and I don't know what story this is, but they were testing the intuition of dogs you maybe the universe is always listening but then do you have to say things out loud or is the universe reading our brain waves as well oh something i read the other day there was a i don't know what book this is from and i don't know what story this is but they were testing the intuition of dogs with their owners and it was like does a dog know when their owner the dog knows when their owner comes home but does the dog know when their owner starts going home and they tested the dog's reaction to their owner first coming through the door then turning and then like turning and getting into their car to come home and the dog knew when the owner got in the car to come home but the dog also knew the moment like it started acting differently the moment the owner had the intention of going home so it's like you can be that connected to something like an animal that you spend a lot of time with that it knows when you've just got this tiny intention of something you're going to do so a dog can do it the universe can probably do it as well like the whatever you want to call it love god the infinite anything it must know there's so much we don't know there's so much that we don't know we know that everything's energy including us and energy can move at very
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    “You invite people to take advantage of you when you're desperate.”

    — Chris Do

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