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    Positive Thinking Never Sticks w/ Dr. John Demartini

    with Dr. John Demartini

    Chris Do and Dr. John Demartini examine why forced positive thinking gives way to a more complete view of life.

    Chris Do

    Chris Do

    Founder, The Futur™ · October 14, 2026

    The demand to feel better becomes another burden

    Positive thinking can become another reason to feel inadequate. Dr. John Demartini, a teacher and author who describes spending two years testing an intensive affirmation routine, brings that contradiction to his conversation with Chris Do. His perspective matters because his objection comes from pursuing positivity, not dismissing it from a distance.

    The familiar promise is simple: change the thoughts, change the experience. Demartini describes a less comfortable result. Negative thoughts kept returning, and their return became evidence that he was failing at the very practice intended to help him.

    That second judgment is the problem beneath the problem.

    Disappointment is one experience. Disappointment followed by self-reproach for not being sufficiently positive is another. In Demartini's account, the attempt to remove an unwanted feeling created a new standard against which to condemn himself.

    The demand for constant positivity can turn ordinary difficulty into personal failure. His argument is not that encouragement has no place. It is that encouragement becomes an impossible assignment when it requires the disappearance of every contradictory response.

    Demartini locates the beginning of that assignment in his late teens. He recalls returning from Hawaii, where he had been surfing, to visit his parents in Texas. He wanted to learn, read, and become a teacher after growing up believing those possibilities were closed to him.

    His parents bought him books about positive thinking. Reading with a dictionary beside him, he treated their message seriously. A new attitude appeared to offer a route beyond the limits he had absorbed about his own abilities.

    That detail complicates any easy dismissal of self-help. The promise was not merely decorative. For someone trying to imagine a different future, it supplied direction and something to practice.

    But the practice carried an assumption: enough repetition would eventually eliminate the unwanted half of his internal life. When judgment, frustration, or self-criticism returned, he interpreted the recurrence as a problem with his effort rather than a problem with the target.

    So he increased the effort.

    He collected more books and attended seminars. He also describes meeting speakers whose private lives contained the same mixture of positive and negative experiences he recognized in himself. The gap between the ideal and its advocates became harder to ignore.

    The question was no longer whether he could become more disciplined. It was whether the discipline was aimed at something any person actually sustained.

    Do's opening concern gives this personal history a broader purpose. Why does attention move toward the negative, even when a different interpretation is available? Demartini's answer redirects attention from the persistence of negativity to the expectation that it should disappear.

    That is a meaningful change in the assignment. Rather than treating every difficult thought as contamination, he proposes examining what the thought exposes about the picture a person has constructed.

    This conversation occupies territory adjacent to The Futur's Where Do You Draw Confidence From?: the assumptions beneath a person's sense of capability. Here, the pressure point is the belief that inner conflict disqualifies someone from being capable at all.

    Demartini's challenge is more demanding than a cheerful replacement thought. It asks whether the standard itself deserves to survive.

    The experiment that failed its own promise

    Demartini did not describe casually trying affirmations and losing interest. He describes organizing his life around them. The scale of the effort is what gives his account its narrative force, even though it remains a personal account rather than a controlled study.

    At 28, he says, he gathered 300 bestselling books on positive thinking. He underlined positive words, compiled material onto 2,000 index cards, and assembled a collection of quotations. Then he turned that material into a daily regimen.

    His description contains three distinct commitments:

    • Divide the quotations across 365 days, with five or six assigned to each day.
    • Repeat the daily material 108 times.
    • Record his experience four times daily across seven areas of life.

    The schedule was specific: seven, eleven, three, and seven. He says he maintained it for two years. This was not positivity as a passing mood; it was positivity as a sustained project with records attached.

    At the end, he recalls taking out a calculator and totaling his recorded highs and lows. His reported result was zero.

    That number needs careful handling. The conversation does not provide the underlying records, explain a validated scoring system, or establish an independent assessment. It cannot demonstrate that every person's positive and negative experiences inevitably balance mathematically.

    What it does establish is the conclusion Demartini drew from his own exercise: concentration on positive language had not delivered a permanently positive life.

    A personal experiment is not a universal law. Keeping that distinction intact does not drain the story of its value. It makes the useful part more precise: an elaborate routine failed to produce the outcome its practitioner expected.

    His response was to reconsider the desired outcome rather than intensify the routine again. The important turn occurs there, not in the arithmetic. He stopped treating the return of unwanted feelings as proof that more repetition was necessary.

    Demartini uses the image of a magnet to describe the earlier pursuit. He had been trying to obtain one pole without the other. As a metaphor for his frustration, it captures the absurdity he eventually saw in demanding a human experience stripped of contradiction.

    The metaphor is not evidence that every loss has an equal gain. It is a way of naming the limitation of a one-sided ambition.

    That distinction matters throughout the conversation. Demartini reaches for sweeping explanations, including references to psychology, physiology, and physics. The practical argument does not require accepting those references as proof of his broader worldview.

    It requires a narrower observation: his thoughts did not obey his preferred division between acceptable and unacceptable experience.

    There is also a revealing contrast between the instrument and the ambition. Index cards, daily schedules, repeated statements, and a calculator suggest control. Yet the thing he wanted to control remained responsive to circumstances, judgments, and other people.

    The record keeping did something he had not intended. Instead of confirming mastery over negativity, it helped him question the premise that negativity represented a failure of mastery.

    Not a failed person. An unsuccessful target.

    The glass needs both descriptions

    The clearest test of Demartini's position arrives through a familiar image: the glass that is half full or half empty. Usually, that image sorts people into optimists and pessimists. The desirable answer is understood before anyone finishes asking.

    Demartini rejects the choice.

    “It's seeing both simultaneously,” he says. The aim is not to select the more comforting description. It is to stop treating two compatible observations as competing loyalties.

    A glass can contain water and still have unfilled space. Neither fact requires the removal of the other. The practical force of the image comes from its refusal to turn accuracy into a contest between attitudes.

    Balanced perception keeps benefits and drawbacks in view together. This is the central reframe of the conversation. It differs from finding a bright side after something goes wrong, because the bright side is not asked to erase the original difficulty.

    Demartini applies this distinction most clearly to relationships. Early attraction can foreground appealing qualities and push inconvenient information aside. Later resentment can reverse the arrangement, leaving the same person visible mainly through disappointment.

    In his telling, the descriptions change more completely than the person does.

    He contrasts two patterns of attention:

    • Idealization notices appealing qualities while overlooking costs and limitations.
    • Resentment notices costs and limitations while overlooking what remains valuable.
    • A fuller appraisal attempts to hold both sets of information at once.

    These are not three clinical categories or a diagnostic test. They are distinctions within Demartini's explanation of how judgments become one-sided. Their usefulness lies in directing attention toward omitted information, not in assigning a label to a partner.

    The same logic shapes his comments about character. He describes himself as capable of support and challenge, kindness and cruelty. His purpose is to resist the division of people into entirely admirable or entirely objectionable figures.

    That position needs an important boundary. Acknowledging complexity does not make harmful conduct acceptable, and recognizing someone's good qualities does not create an obligation to remain close to them. A complete appraisal still leaves room for consequences.

    Without that boundary, balance becomes another demand imposed on someone already dealing with pain. The more defensible interpretation is descriptive: a judgment should account for relevant information, even when the resulting decision is firm.

    Demartini's emphasis is therefore not softness. It is completeness.

    He argues that a person cannot accept themselves while trying to remove every quality that conflicts with an ideal identity. In his view, self-acceptance begins with acknowledging the range of actual behavior rather than defending an immaculate version of the self.

    For an audience accustomed to assessing creative work, the distinction has a useful editorial parallel: evaluation is not the same as condemnation. The Futur's Learning, Collaboration, Critique & Feedback offers a related entry point into the broader subject of judgment.

    Here, the object being judged is not a design. It is an entire person or experience, compressed into a verdict too small to contain it.

    The glass does not become fuller because its empty space goes unnamed. It becomes more accurately described when both facts remain visible.

    The expectation hiding inside the reaction

    If negative thoughts are not simply failures to stay positive, what deserves examination instead? Demartini points repeatedly to expectations. More specifically, he points to the conditions people impose on themselves, on others, and on the world before allowing any of them to be acceptable.

    He says he has identified 15 common reasons for negativity, but the conversation does not present a complete, distinct list. What it does develop is a recurring pattern: expecting a person or situation to offer only the desired side of experience.

    The second pattern concerns values. Other people are expected to behave according to the observer's priorities rather than their own. The reverse also appears: someone expects themselves to live according to another person's values, then judges themselves for the resulting conflict.

    Demartini's examples place the pressure in several directions:

    • Expecting others to be one-sided. A person is allowed admirable qualities but no inconvenient ones.
    • Expecting others to share personal values. Different priorities are treated as a violation rather than a difference.
    • Expecting the self to meet incompatible demands. Constant positivity or obedience to someone else's priorities becomes the standard.

    These expectations do not describe every source of distress. They do, however, identify the specific territory Demartini wants a person to investigate before deciding that an uncomfortable feeling has nothing useful to reveal.

    The distinction between a preference and a requirement is crucial here. Wanting another person to act differently is not the same as assuming that person must share the same priorities. One expresses a desire; the other mistakes that desire for an agreement.

    His account also challenges the apparent generosity of idealization. Placing someone beyond ordinary contradiction looks complimentary, but it leaves that person little room to be recognizable. Eventually, a real action conflicts with the assigned role.

    The resulting disappointment can then appear to come entirely from the person rather than partly from the portrait.

    Expectations about the self follow the same structure. Demartini recalls judging himself whenever a negative thought appeared. The thought mattered, but so did the rule that made its appearance unacceptable.

    That is why his response is not merely to substitute a favorable judgment. It is to inspect the rule beneath the judgment. A more flattering verdict leaves the original tribunal intact.

    The question of whose values define an acceptable life also connects naturally with Living in the Dogma of your Parents. Demartini's contribution is to make that issue bidirectional: borrowed expectations can be imposed on the self, and personal expectations can be imposed on everyone else.

    There is a limit to this explanation that should remain explicit. The conversation extends its claims into depression and makes guarantees about overcoming it. Those statements should not be treated as established clinical guidance, and examining expectations is not a substitute for appropriate mental health care.

    The editorially useful claim is narrower and stronger for being narrower. Before trying to silence a reaction, examine whether an unspoken demand helped shape it.

    A feeling is not automatically a verdict. Nor is it automatically meaningless.

    Better questions put the missing facts on the table

    Demartini's proposed alternative to affirmation is not another slogan. It is inquiry. Where an affirmation repeats a preferred statement, a question creates the possibility that the preferred statement is incomplete.

    The distinction is especially clear in his discussion of romantic expectations. He favors asking concrete questions early rather than allowing an attractive impression to stand in for knowledge. The goal is to learn how a person understands situations before disappointment supplies an answer.

    This is not an argument against romance. It is an argument against confusing romance with sufficient information.

    Demartini describes questions about how someone would respond under particular circumstances. Their value lies in making expectations explicit. An answer provides something more specific than the general impression that two people are aligned.

    The questions also create room for difference before difference becomes an accusation. A hypothetical situation can reveal priorities without requiring either person to have already disappointed the other. That is the constructive function he assigns to reason within an emotionally charged relationship.

    Questions make room for information that certainty excludes. This is the practical center of his approach, and it remains useful without the larger scientific claims that accompany it.

    His examples suggest several areas for inquiry, rather than a newly named method:

    • The expectations placed on another person's behavior.
    • The values being treated as shared without an explicit conversation.
    • The drawbacks omitted from an idealized impression.
    • The benefits omitted from an account dominated by resentment.

    The list is not a demand to find an equal number of positives and negatives. Nor does the conversation establish a universal scoring system for relationships. Its purpose is to locate what the current account leaves out.

    That distinction protects the exercise from becoming another performance. If a person has to produce gratitude on command, inquiry has already become persuasion. The answer is being prescribed before the evidence has been considered.

    Do is drawn to the quality of this questioning because he has watched Demartini work with a participant carrying resentment about the end of a marriage. In his closing remarks, Do emphasizes the number of angles Demartini introduced and how little of the larger process they had covered.

    What impressed him was not a single inspirational sentence. It was the sustained examination of an account that initially seemed settled.

    The participant's experience is described through recollection and discussion, not through an independent assessment of lasting change. That limits what can be concluded about the method's effectiveness. It does not obscure the conversational mechanism Do found compelling: the same event looked different when more consequences entered the frame.

    Curiosity is doing substantive work here. It is not a pleasant personality trait attached to an otherwise fixed conclusion. The Futur's How to stay curious provides a related perspective on keeping inquiry active rather than allowing a familiar way of seeing to become the only one.

    In Demartini's account, the better question is the one that interrupts the familiar verdict. Not because the verdict must be wrong, but because its confidence can exceed the information supporting it.

    Gratitude without rewriting the damage

    The conversation's emotional weight returns to the woman whose resentment had been examined earlier. Do describes watching her reconsider the role of another woman in events that helped end her marriage. What began as a story organized around injury acquired another dimension: what the rupture made possible.

    Do frames the change as accelerated growth. He also speculates that unresolved guilt would have strained the marriage even without the other woman's intervention. That is his interpretation of the participant's situation, not an independently established account of what would otherwise have happened.

    The distinction matters because counterfactual stories are powerful. A person can be certain that life would have been better without an event, or become equally certain that the event saved them. Neither imagined alternative is available for direct inspection.

    The more grounded shift concerns the present account. The participant could identify consequences she had not previously included while concentrating on resentment. The event did not change; the range of consequences under consideration expanded.

    That is different from declaring the original harm good.

    A separate account of job loss reinforces the same pattern. Someone describes being encouraged to see the loss as a gift, then revisiting earlier experiences through that lens. The meaningful change is the ability to recognize an opening inside an event first experienced as a closure.

    Yet the gift language contains its own risk. Applied mechanically, it returns to the positive-only demand Demartini spent the conversation challenging. Every setback becomes another occasion on which someone is expected to prove emotional discipline by praising the pain.

    His correction to the half-full glass offers the better standard. Both descriptions need room. A loss can remain a loss while also leading somewhere valuable.

    This makes gratitude an addition to the account, not a replacement for it. Gratitude that requires denying damage is simply selective attention wearing a more attractive expression.

    The practical work is therefore specific. Identify the judgment. Identify the expectation beneath it. Look for relevant information that the judgment has excluded, including consequences that became visible only afterward.

    These are the recurring moves of the conversation, not a complete presentation of The Demartini Method. The earlier demonstration is referenced, but this discussion does not supply the full procedure or establish that every person will arrive at the same result.

    It also does not require a warm feeling toward everyone involved. A more complete understanding can coexist with distance, disagreement, or a decision not to repeat the experience. Accuracy and reconciliation are not interchangeable outcomes.

    Demartini's own history gives the ending its tension. He began by repeating positive statements with extraordinary consistency. The later emphasis falls on questions that threaten the comfort of a settled statement.

    The discipline remains. Its purpose changes.

    Instead of policing the mind for unacceptable content, the task becomes examining the demands and omissions that shape a reaction. Instead of waiting for a life without contradiction, the task becomes making decisions with contradiction in view.

    That standard is harder to display than optimism and harder to package than a promise of permanent happiness. It asks for something less glamorous and more exacting: an account that can withstand the inconvenient facts.

    A better account of life does not need every fact to feel good.

    Negativity is an absolutely essential aspect of human behavior. It is pointless to try to get rid of it. It's needed. Learning what it's trying to reveal to our minds is important. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to The Future. I'm Rich Cardona, the show's producer, and this is part two of Chris's conversation with Dr. John Demartini, who he absolutely loves. If you missed part one, we watched The Demartini Method live. A woman started in deep resentment towards someone who blew up her marriage and ended, somehow, in gratitude. And if you missed it, it's one episode back and definitely worth your time for context. In this half, Dr. Demartini takes on the bigger question. Why do our minds go negative in the first place? And why does forcing positivity never stick? His answer involves 300 self -help books, 2 ,000 index cards, and a two -year experiment in pure positive thinking that came out, by his own math, to exactly zero. Here's part two. What is it about our human nature that we tend to focus on the negative, not the positive? Because if you keep doing this, it seems like we're all exactly where we need to be. And we learn the moment we appreciate all that's happened. When I turned 18 years old, I was living in Hawaii as a big wave rider or surfer. And I left there and I came to Texas to visit my parents. So I left home at a young age, 13. My parents saw that I wanted to go and learn how to read. See you later. pour some larger questions. Bye. living in hawaii as a big wave rider surfer and i left there and i came to texas to visit my parents so i left home at a young age 13. my parents saw that i wanted to go and learn how to read and go back and try to learn again so i was inspired by paul bragg who helped me believe that maybe someday i could be intelligent because i was told i would never be able to read write communicate every amount of thing to go very far in life when i was first grade and i ended up i didn't read till i was 18. so i got inspired and i started back and my parents bought a set of books a little triplet book by norman minson peele the power of positive thinking so i read this book and i thought i need to be more positive and i was reading it with a dictionary because my vocabulary was limited but i tried and tried and tried and tried to be positive positive positive but no matter what i did i'd i'd falter i'd have some judgment on myself or on somebody else or whatever and i thought what am i doing wrong and so i got a whole collection of self -help books thinking i was going to eventually get there to a positive pull of a magnet without the other pole and no matter what i did i kept faltering i'd have negative thoughts so i said well maybe i need to go live to the seminar so it's starting at age 20 i started attending seminars i went to a live seminar with norman vincent peele he stood on stage and he says you probably know me as the father of positive thinking but i must confess before you today that i am one of the most negative thinking people you've ever met and the reason i wrote the books on positive thinking is to help balance out my negativity and i was the only one applauding everybody else was like shocked and i was applauding and then i went to the national speakers and i met earl knight ever met. And the reason I wrote the books on positive thinking is to help balance out my negativity. And I was the only one applauding. Everybody else was like shocked. And I was applauding. And then I went to the national speakers and I met Earl Nightingale and his brother and I met Debbie Clement Stone and I met Tremendous Jones and Jim Rohn and all these speakers. Right. And I got to interact with them and hang out with them and find out about their lives and stuff. And as I was emerging from 18 year olds, I wanted to be a teacher. And so I started my teaching career. I got to meet those people and every one of them had both positive and negative. And so I thought, why are we teaching something nobody's living? And I remember Paul Dirac, the Nobel Prize winner, he wrote a book in 1947 called The Principles of Quantum Mechanics. And he said, it's not that we don't know so much, it's we know so much of itself. We're taught misinformation. Political and theological systems like to be in the guilt producing control business. They love to create a moral hypocrisy that nobody can live by so you can feel ashamed so they can control you with the fantasy of the afterlife and the eternal damnation, eternal salvation, you might say, or the control of some projected moralities of society. So I started realizing, you know what? And it took me a decade to finally realize that no matter how hard I'm trying to do, I'm not getting positive without negative. They're coming together as a pair. And I'm supportive and challenging and nice and mean and kind and cruel. Heraclitus, the Greek philosopher talked about the unity of opposites. And Paul Dirac got his information from particle and antiparticle physics from that idea. And I thought the unity of opposites makes more sense to me because I'm having Titus, the Greek philosopher, talked about the unity of opposites. And Paul Dirac got his information from particle and antiparticle physics from that idea. And I thought, the unity of opposites makes more sense to me because I'm having the unity of opposites. I'm having both. And the dialectic and the propositions of arguments and law and through the history from the time of Zeno through Aristotle to Hegel and all these philosophers, they all were talking about the unity of opposites, bringing and synthesizing these pairs of opposites. And I thought, I wonder what would happen if we did that in our mind. We took the positive and negatives and integrated them in our mind. Could we liberate ourselves from the intrusive thoughts and the things that occupy space and time in our mind that run our lives? Because anybody that's highly infatuated can't sleep at night. They got insomnia because they're on the alert that I got food in front of me. I don't want to lose it. So I'm awake. Or if I got somebody I'm resentful, it's a predator. I got to stay awake because I could get eaten. And so we have this insomnia, which is symptomatic, trying to let us know we have imbalanced ratios of perception about people that we're storing in our mind, causing these difficulties sleeping. So I set out to answer the question, is there such a thing as positive thinking by itself? So at age 28, I took 300 bestselling books on positive thinking. I underlined every positive word in those things and compiled those into a 2000 index cards list, and I wrote a book, you can find it online, 2000 Quotes to the Wise, A Day -by -Day Guide to Inspirational Living by Dr. Demartini, I published in 1983, on the most positive words and the most positive meditated affirmations and quotations that could be stated by that. And I put this book together, and then I decided I was going to. And I was going to. Inspirational Living by Dr. Demartini, I published in 1983, on the most positive words and the most positive meditated affirmations and quotations that could be stated by that. And I put this book together and then I decided I was going to quote those, divide that into 365 days. I put five to six quotes per day. I decided I was going to chant them 108 times like the Rosary Beads or the Joppa Beads by the International Society of Krishna Consciousness. And I'm going to go through and inculcate my brain with the most positive words, the most positive statements, the most positive things I could, and then monitor and measure on a day -by -day cycle forecasting form the seven areas of my life to see what impact it's having on my life. And I did that for two years, every single day, four monitorings a day, seven, 11, three, and seven, and monitored what impacted saying nothing but positive words and nothing but positive statements impact my life. And I monitored it. And at the end of two years, I got a Texas instrument calculator out, if you all remember those. And I calculated all of the fluctuations of all the highs and lows and positive negatives I had during the time I was concentrating most intensely, more than anybody I'd ever met on positive thinking. And it came out zero. And then I learned something that I could have learned if I had just studied. I learned that there's a thing called hedonic adaptation, that each of us have a set point that automatically oscillates our positives and negatives and brings us back. We also have a moral licensing effect. Anytime we get proud, we give ourselves permission to do something, to undermine it, to make sure we feel shame, to get us back in equilibrium. When we do something with shame, we do something to go pride. We go and work out. We then give ourselves permission to drink wine and eat. oral licensing effect. Anytime we get proud, we give ourselves permission to do something to undermine it, to make sure we feel shame, to get us back in equilibrium. When we do something with shame, we do something to go pride. We go and work out. We then give ourselves permission to drink wine and eat and do things as a homeostat to try to keep us to the set point of our authentic state. So I realized at the end of it that it was a pointless thing to try to be one -sided. The Buddha said the desire for that which is unobtainable and the desire to avoid that which is unavoidable as a source of human suffering. So instead of trying to get one half of a magnet and try to get rid of the other half of a magnet, which is futile, I finally embraced the positive and negatives. And I started asking, why do we have negativity? And I found without the uncertainty about it, that the second you have negativity, it's because it's there to break your addiction to its opposite pole. So anytime your amygdala wants to avoid a predator and seek a prey, it wants to create a positive without a negative, a pleasure without a pain, a happy without a sad, a peace without a war. It's trying to get a one -sided world that doesn't exist. And the moment you do, our negativity through our intuition comes out to try to break that addiction. Because if we get addicted to that, we become juvenilily dependent on it and we don't grow. So we have to have the other side in order to grow again. So nature brings us back to the unity of opposites, which is our authentic self. I'm both hero and villain, nice and mean, kind and cruel. I'm not a one -sided individual. None of us are. There is no such thing as a one -sided individual. There's no heroes out there. Any religion that promotes it or any politics that promotes it is a farce. Because when you really get to know somebody after you marry somebody, they got both sides. Giving yourself permission to be whole, which is exactly what all this was giving you. religion that promotes it or any politics that promotes it is a farce. Because when you really get to know somebody after you marry somebody, they got both sides. Giving yourself permission to be whole, which is exactly what all this was giving you, transcends the illusion of trying to get a positive out of a negative. And trying to get rid of half of yourself is futile. You'll never love yourself if you're trying to get rid of all your negativity. It's pointless because you need it. You need it to break your addictions to the fantasies. Your executive center in the forebrain, which has foresight and strategic planning and is more the integrated center of the soul, according to Scientific American, September 2022, shows that our real self is that integrated self, not the fractured parts. So as long as we're striving for a one -sided world, the other side has to smack us. So negativity is an absolutely essential aspect of human behavior. It is pointless to try to get rid of it. It's needed. Learning what it's trying to reveal to our minds is important. And I found 15 most common reasons why we have negativity. We have unrealistic expectations on others to be one -sided, not both -sided. We have unrealistic expectations that others are going to live in our values, not their own. The combination of those two. We have an unrealistic expectation that we are going to be one -sided. So we have negative towards ourself. Why am I not positive? I had a negative. I feel proud when I do this. I feel shame this way. We become bipolar. Unrealistic expectation us to live in other people's values like your husband or a combination of those two. Unrealistic expectation on the collective society to be do this. I feel shame this way. We become bipolar. Unrealistic expectation of us to live in other people's values, like your husband, or a combination of those two. Unrealistic expectation on the collective society to be living one -sided. Final peace. Global Peace Index across the world shows a balance of peace and war across the world year after year after year, but idiots think they're going to get a one -sided world. You need both to grow to transform, just like you need the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic nervous system for catalyst, for catabolism and anabolism to destroy and build in your body for you to adapt to changing environments. The world needs that. And the unrealistic expectation on the collective society that everybody's going to live in your values. When I spoke at UNESCO, United Nations, I trained 75 delegates there and cracked their fantasy that everybody, the world would be at peace if everybody would just follow their values. Delusions. But we live in a delusion because our amygdala runs most people's lives. Primarily because we've been taught we're supposed to get rid of half of our self and be one -sided. And we can't love ourselves or other people as long as we're striving for that which is unobtainable. So there's a series of reasons why we have negativity. And the negativity is not our enemy. It's our friend because it's letting us know when we have unrealistic expectations. And our depression is a culmination of all those unrealistic expectations that do affect our biochemistry. But our pharmaceutical companies want you to believe it's because there's a lack of their drug, which is not true. It robs people of their power. Nobody that has depression can't transcend it. Guaranteed. I could just get warmed up. What's up, Milka? Based on what I heard from you as a designer, where everything that you're saying, I'm trying to... and send it. Guaranteed. I could just get warmed up. What's up, Milka? Based on what I heard from you as a designer, where everything that you're saying, I'm trying to, you know, put it together as an image, is that there's this cup, which is half full and half empty. And based on whatever, all the things that you heard, that's what I'm envisioning, that it's up to us how we see life, either half full or half empty. It could be like maybe one ounce water and the rest empty, but that one ounce water is still a blessing. It's not seeing one or the other. It's seeing both simultaneously. Wilhelm Wann, the father of experimental psychology, 1897 text, said that when people see simultaneous contrast, they have stability and authenticity. When they see sequential contrast and there's a arrow of time and entropy and disorder in the perception, you have inauthenticity. You have the imposter syndrome or the persona and mass parts that we wear. So if we are infatuated with somebody and we're unconscious of the downside, and then later we resent them and we're unconscious of the upside, which most marriages do, there's a sequential contrast. There's a separation between the positive and negatives. Anytime there's a separation of positive and negative, we're unstable. We have disorder, missing information. If we can see both of them simultaneously, that's why when you go out on the first date, you might as well get it out of the way, get it on the table, find out what that is. Imagine me on a first date, right? It'd be tortured. I don't understand. I'm not sure. It's okay. It's okay. I'll see you on top of the future. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's why when you go on on the first date, you might as well get it out of the way. Get it on the table. Find out what that is. Imagine me on a first date, right? It'd be torture. Yes. But my girlfriend does the same work. So she's right there. She just holds me accountable. I was in the Ritz Hotel in 1991 with my wife at the time who's passed away. And we were listening to The Prince and Princes of Japan. On their honeymoon, they just got married. They're now the empress. An empress. But they were at the Ritz having dinner adjacent to us. And they had a 500 -page document, both of them. And they were asking each other questions to get to know each other that were handed down for generations in Japan that were wise questions, really wise questions, to help get to know the individual. And break through the facades that they are when they're first together. I really believe that would be a useful tool for most people. Because the amygdala, when it sees prey, it creates a positive feedback system and a false positive in order to create adrenaline to be able to run fast enough to capture the prey. And so what we do is we generalize and distort and exaggerate the positives and have false negatives and subconscious disconfirming biases on the negatives at first to feed our fantasy instead of actually ground ourselves with quality questions. Better to get those questions out and save yourself enormous amounts of fantasy. I mean, I can't really guess if anything you were able to feel about토 после the break. Well, I think that's a tough feature of çocuk to see if they should becope, can be? I think that we can be an actor on the other side. on the negatives at first to feed our fantasy instead of actually ground ourselves with quality questions. Better to get those questions out and save yourself enormous amounts of fantasy and unrealistic expectations. That's why the quality of our life is basically quality questions. We ask quality questions. So this couple, the Prince and Princess, were doing something in balancing out the romance with the reason and making sure they got to know each other. If this happened, how would you respond? If I did this, how would you respond? And it was offloaded for traditional questioning so it wasn't an attack on them. It was just thought -provoking questions to make you aware of you as a human being transcending the delusive fantasies that society tends to impose on marriages, which are costly in society. So it's a wise thing to do. That's why the quality of our life is basically quality questions. I'm a lover of questions because a question makes you conscious of what you're unconscious of. My questioning made you conscious of what you're unconscious of. And you probably feel lighter now. Anytime you have emotions and valency and charge and you're stored in the subconscious mind, which is the neural correlate, which is the amygdala and hippocampus, you create what is called entropic gravity. Eric Verlin's work, if you want to look it up, you create entropic gravity and you weigh yourself down. It ages you. Aging is a result of entropy and the arrow of time separating memory and imagination It's a result of entropy and the arrow of time is a result of entropy and the arrow of time if you want to look it up. You create entropic gravity and you weigh yourself down. It ages you. Aging is a result of entropy and the arrow of time separating memory and imagination in the sequential contrast of awareness. So the second we bring those into synchronicity, we empower our life again. When a bank gives you a credit card and you go shopping and you get pleasure and 30 days later you get pain, they help you become addicted to consumerism because you assume you can get a pleasure without a pain. When I grew up, we had a layaway plan. You deferred gratification and you paid things. And then when you paid it off, you finally got it. That is much healthier and much more stable for a society to have deferred gratification because immediate gratification costs. Long -term vision and deferred gratification pays investment -wise, relationship -wise, and every area of life, health -wise. So separating the inseparables, dividing the indivisibles, labeling unlabelables, naming the indefinables, and polarizing the unpolarizables go against what Empedocles and Hercules said 2 ,600 years ago and undermine human potential. So I try to bring them back by the questions we ask. I'm sure you're familiar with this piece of literature, but everything you're saying right now is reminding me of one of my favorite quotes by Rainer Maria Rilke about learn to live the questions. And maybe someday in the distant future, you will be able to live your way into the answer or something like that. I'm butchering it, but everything you're saying, it's really interesting. We want answers so desperately. I feel like as humans, we want the pain, the suffering to be done, to be gone. And so every time you're talking into the answer or something like that. I'm butchering it, but everything you're saying, it's, it's really interesting. We want answers so desperately. I feel like as humans, we want the pain, the suffering to be done, to be gone. And so every time you're talking about the quality of the questions, I just keep thinking about what he says in that, the letters to a young poet is, the book. And he says, do not try to get, get the answer. He basically says you, if the answers were given to you, you wouldn't even be able to live them. So learn to love the questions. And I feel like that's what you so beautifully display in your career and what you did today. And I think I may have to go to the seminar this weekend. We'd love to have you. It's my mission. I've done it 1 ,246 times. This will be 1 ,247 time I presented it. You keep such a distinct record of all the, you have the books you read. Who's doing this or how are you? I do it. I do it every day. I document everything. This, this show will be on in my gratitude journal. I have 9 ,378 pages of journals. Tracking this on like a computer and journal? Just a good old Word document. Oh, amazing. By the way, there's a 12 -step program, Survivors of Demartini. You can join that. Just less of a question, more of an observation and how I had a few years ago going through a job loss. And someone told me that, Chris, this is a gift and this bad negative thing that was happening to me. And then I just relends my whole life at that point in time going back. And then, of course, going forward after that, everything that appears to be negative or bad, it really, it truly is a gift. happening to me and then i just relends my whole life at that point in time going back and then of course going forward after that everything that appears to be negative or bad it really truly is a gift you see that as like a gift for us just giving you something new giving you're going to grow from it something is going to happen walk through that door and if it didn't happen you would be stuck so thank you for coming out you just summarized and said in 10 words what i just took 300 000 words to say your wisdom out on me on that well thank you thank you for being here thank you thank you by the way the word passion that so fervently is promoted today if you look at its etymology it comes from passio and pati which means to suffer compassion means to suffer with somebody i have no interest in passion or compassion or the affections that aristotle warned against i'm simply interested in helping people discover their mission missing the ions the charges are not there missing the ions not passing between the ions the dharmic path not the karmic path the equanimity of the christian construct or the myth construct of the path of the sun you could give a any religious construct or philosophical or perennial wisdom you can see a way of saying the same thing the unity of opposites i remember in i think it was 1985 i saw an illustration in time magazine when they used to do the little stories at the bottom and it said that these scientists had actually discovered weightlessness and they did a little diagram and they showed i don't know if it's neurons i am I saw an illustration in Time Magazine when they used to do the little stories at the bottom. And it said that these scientists had actually discovered weightlessness. And they did a little diagram. And they showed, I don't know if it's neurons, ions, eons, whatever they are. But if all the positive ions were going in the same direction, and the negative ones were, you had weightlessness. You had that zero, like kind of, when you were saying that, that's what I was visualizing. But when they're knocking against each other is when it drags you down. There's subtlety to what you're saying. The anti -gravitational effect of a non -charged state, a photon is spaceless, timeless, massless, and chargeless. When it leaves the Milky Way and comes here 26 ,000 light years away, it arrives the same time it left. So to somebody who's enlightened, there's no time. Timeless mind, ageist body. But whenever you have charge, you have space, time, mass, and charge, you're living in a conditional state. Fermions versus bosons, they call it in physics. And when you do, you now are subject to mass. I call it mass consciousness versus master consciousness or enlightened consciousness. So there is a beautiful way of integrating the particle physics world with the psychological world, not just as a metaphor, but in deeper levels. As Erwin Schrodinger in his one -mind construct, unminded atoms that he wrote about, he described it. He was a mystic from the Eastern Vedanta, but at the same time, he was a great scientist and gave rise to the Schrodinger equation, which is one of the greatest equations we know. So there's a mystic from the Eastern Vedanta. that he wrote about he described and he was a mystic from the eastern vedanta but at the same time he was a great scientist and gave rise to the schrodinger equation which is one of the greatest equations we know in physics so that it was the mystic and the scientist that join true science and true religion don't fight pseudoscience and pseudoreligions are constantly fighting dr demartini i just want to thank you for doing this you and i just met over the internet a couple of weeks ago and you've been super generous to be here just shortly after us talking and i wanted to experience this i wanted my friends and colleagues to experience it and i think it's truly remarkable and special what i just wanted to say was i thought okay that was pretty deep and it just never ends and you were like we're only on column two of 55 or something yeah it was just like we scratched the surface like how you hold at it and just this dimension that dimension it was just really just awesome to just witness and see and she worked through this path of starting from a deep place of resentment and i felt that when she said that because we've we know each other and how you moved her through all the different ways of not seeing this and then having her just to come to the realization that there's a lot of gratitude she owes a debt to this other woman deborah because you would not be here had deborah not set all these things into motion and i keep imagining that had she not spilled the beans on you you'd be living with tremendous guilt and would be eating you up inside the entire marriage and it would crack one way or the other with or without her assistance and so i think she accelerated your growth and it's hard to see that because we'd rather blame people the farther we go into it the more profound magnificent appreciation you get right please just our marriage and it would crack one way or the other with or without our assistance and so i think she accelerated your growth and it's hard to see that because we'd rather blame people the farther we go into it the more profound magnificent appreciation you get wow
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