This conversation comes from a live Clubhouse discussion. In the event you don’t know what Clubhouse is,  it’s an invite-only social media app that fosters group discussion through live audio.

In this episode, Chris joins photography rep, agent, and manager—Andrea Stern—in her photo business forum. The topic: what do you do when you’re stuck in your career?

Andrea helps photographer get work and develop their careers. She’s done so for over two decades.

But times change. And so does the professional landscape. What drove advertising and got you work twenty years ago, doesn’t work as well today.

As a seasoned professional, how do you compete with young up-and-comers? Especially when they have tens of thousands of followers, and you don’t. And that actually matters to clients.

In this live Q&A, Andrea and Chris field questions from people that are bored, stuck, or uninspired in their careers. And although they don’t always agree, Andrea and Chris both offer beacons of hope for an unknown future.

Being a creative professional is not easy. How do you balance honing your craft, running a business, and marketing yourself? And how do you keep up and age into your career?

We’ll let Andrea and Chris answer those big questions for you. But we will say this: if you don’t adapt to the times, the times will leave you behind.

All the more reason to listen to this episode.